Comments on: Go easy with specifying behavior, man http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/ Can you dig it man? Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:03:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Test Early » Executable documentation the easy way http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-30123 Test Early » Executable documentation the easy way Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:22:33 +0000 http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-30123 [...] Having seen the light with RSpec and indeed, rbehave, I found myself wanting the same simple expressiveness in Java– accordingly, I began experimenting with Groovy and internal DSLs (with the help of some friends) and came up with something I find quite simple and expressive. [...] [...] Having seen the light with RSpec and indeed, rbehave, I found myself wanting the same simple expressiveness in Java– accordingly, I began experimenting with Groovy and internal DSLs (with the help of some friends) and came up with something I find quite simple and expressive. [...]

]]> By: The Disco Blog » Blog Archive » Internal DSLs, Groovy style http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-29127 The Disco Blog » Blog Archive » Internal DSLs, Groovy style Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:19:32 +0000 http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-29127 [...] Internal DSLs, Groovy style In a previous post, I described a simple framework for creating copasetic specifications– these are written in Groovy and run via a simple Java runner. What’s makes this little framework simple is its specification format– that is, the DSL, which facilitates defining specifications for hip objects. [...] [...] Internal DSLs, Groovy style In a previous post, I described a simple framework for creating copasetic specifications– these are written in Groovy and run via a simple Java runner. What’s makes this little framework simple is its specification format– that is, the DSL, which facilitates defining specifications for hip objects. [...]

]]> By: Andy http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-29121 Andy Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:23:57 +0000 http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-29121 Stand-by, friend. Almost there with an Ant task-- still want to get the base DSL down with some real use cases, man. :) Stand-by, friend. Almost there with an Ant task– still want to get the base DSL down with some real use cases, man. :)

]]> By: Stephan Schmidt http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-28499 Stephan Schmidt Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:18:15 +0000 http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-28499 Yes :-) But more important to me would be an open source, Apache licensed, DSL for BDD which can be used from Ant and IDEA for Java projects. Cheers -stephan Yes :-) But more important to me would be an open source, Apache licensed, DSL for BDD which can be used from Ant and IDEA for Java projects.

Cheers
-stephan

]]> By: Andy http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-28450 Andy Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:09:41 +0000 http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-28450 Good call, Stephan. Stacks and hip Queues are a bit too pedestrian. Let me work up some more real scenarios and post them-- then let's reassess? Good call, Stephan. Stacks and hip Queues are a bit too pedestrian. Let me work up some more real scenarios and post them– then let’s reassess?

]]> By: Stephan Schmidt http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-28428 Stephan Schmidt Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:37:28 +0000 http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-28428 Great work. But I'm not sure that BDD will catch on. The Queue examples just look like the Stack examples that the Design By Contract guys carried arround as examples. And for most accounts, DbC didn't scale, you could express easy stuff but when I would be important to have DbC, it was way to complex (and once I was a DbC follower :-) Hope BDD is different. When your DSL gains more momentum, I probably try it with a project. Behavior specs do look better than Unit tests in the end. Cheers -stephan -- Stephan Schmidt :: stephan@reposita.org Reposita Open Source - Monitor your software development http://www.reposita.org Blog at http://stephan.reposita.org - No signal. No noise. Great work. But I’m not sure that BDD will catch on. The Queue examples just look like the Stack examples that the Design By Contract guys carried arround as examples. And for most accounts, DbC didn’t scale, you could express easy stuff but when I would be important to have DbC, it was way to complex (and once I was a DbC follower :-) Hope BDD is different.

When your DSL gains more momentum, I probably try it with a project. Behavior specs do look better than Unit tests in the end.

Cheers
-stephan

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]]> By: accutane lawsuit » Go easy with specifying behavior, man http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-28425 accutane lawsuit » Go easy with specifying behavior, man Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:03:53 +0000 http://thediscoblog.com/2007/10/31/go-easy-with-specifying-behavior-man/#comment-28425 [...] deacon wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptGo easy with specifying behavior, man RSpec’s DSL is so hip that I recently found myself wanting that same simple expressiveness in Java (by the way, there’s nothing stopping someone from using RSpec with Java via JRuby)– in fact, what I want is a simple framework that facilitates letting non developers specify behavio… Read the full post from The Disco Blog Tags: groovy, Developer Testing via Blogdigger blog search for class action. [...] [...] deacon wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptGo easy with specifying behavior, man RSpec’s DSL is so hip that I recently found myself wanting that same simple expressiveness in Java (by the way, there’s nothing stopping someone from using RSpec with Java via JRuby)– in fact, what I want is a simple framework that facilitates letting non developers specify behavio… Read the full post from The Disco Blog Tags: groovy, Developer Testing via Blogdigger blog search for class action. [...]

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